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Joel Osteen believes Mormons are Christians? The Billy Graham Association’s site takes down an article stating Mormonism is a cult? – The Berean Perspective

Today’s Berean Perspective audio podcast answers the question, are Mormons Christians?  Are Mormons our brothers and sisters in Christ?   Recently we found out that Joel Osteen, along with the Billy Graham Association seem to believe that Mormons are Christians, which is not accurate.  In today’s world Christianity is facing many challenges concerning genuine faith and false faith, and many people are being misinformed believing that Mormons are Christians.  In short,  Mormonism teaches another God, another Jesus, another Gospel, and another Spirit. In this podcast you will here Biblical reasons why Mormons are not Christians.

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– Notes below to follow along, and you are encouraged to examine the references which were used in today’s Berean Perspective podcast.  If you have any comments or questions please share them with us below.

  • Franklin Graham’s comments concerning Mormonism article being removed from BGEA (Billy Graham Evangelistic Association) website which stated that Mormons were not Christians and that they belonged to a Cult (click here for full article)

The evangelist told CNN that he did not write the article and that he was “shocked” to find the article on the BGEA website.

“We have 10,000 pages and I don’t write the 10,000 pages. Other people have written it. There was a discussion as to what a cult was and they (the article) had a definition of a cult and then they gave some examples and when I found out there were examples they took them off. But I was shocked that we even had that on there,” Graham said, as he described the “cult” reference as name-calling.

“If I want to win a person to Christ, how can I call that person a name? That’s what shocked me, that we were calling people names.”

  • Joseph Smith’s claim to be a true servant/prophet of God by what he what he taught concerning God’s character and nature

“Every man has a natural, and, in our country, a constitutional right to be a false prophet, as well as a true prophet. If I show, verily, that I have the truth of God, and show that ninety-nine out of every hundred professing religious ministers are false teachers, having no authority, while they pretend to hold the keys of God’s kingdom on earth, and was to kill them because they are false teachers, it would deluge the whole world with blood.  I will prove that the world is wrong, by showing what God is. I am going to inquire after God; for I want you all to know Him, and to be familiar with Him; and if I am bringing you to a knowledge of Him, all persecutions against me ought to cease. You will then know that I am His servant; for I speak as one having authority.” (History of the Church, Volume 6, pages 304-305))

  • Mormon Church Teachings on God

“What Kind of Being is God – The Prophet Joseph Smith said: “If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by his power, was to make himself visible I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345).” (Gospel Principles, Chapter 1, page 9, 1992/ History of the Church, Volume 6, page 305))

“I will go back to the beginning before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth, for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why He interferes with the affairs of man.

God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make himself visible. Say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form, like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with Him, as one man talks and communes with another.

In order to understand the subject of the dead, for consolation of those who mourn for the loss of their friends, it is necessary we should understand the character and being of God and how He came to be so; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see.” (History of the Church, Volume 6, page 305)

  • Bible Scriptures concerning God

Before the mountains were born Or You gave birth to the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God. (Psalms 90:2 NASB)

Your throne is established from of old; You are from everlasting. (Psalms 93:2 NASB)

“You are My witnesses,” declares the LORD, “And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me. (Isaiah 43:10 NASB)

Hebrew word for “formed” is ‘yastar’ (which has the meaning of to be made, to create, created, come into being, to form, be formed, to fashion, to be fashioned)

  • Mormon Church References on Jesus Christ

“God is not only our ruler and creator; he is also our Heavenly Father.  “All men and women are…literally the sons and daughters of Deity…Man, as a spirit, was begotten and born of heavenly parents, and reared to maturity in the eternal mansions of the Father, prior to coming upon the earth in a temporal [physical] body” (Joseph F. Smith, “The Origin of Man,” Improvement Era, Nov. 1909, pp. 78, 80).

Every person who was ever born on earth was our spirit brother or sister in heave.  The first spirit born to our heavenly parents was Jesus Christ (see D&C 93:21), so he is literally our elder brother (see Discourses of Brigham Young, p, 26).  Because we are the spiritual children of our heavenly parents we have inherited the potential to develop their divine qualities.  If we choose to do so, we can become perfect, just as they are.” (Gospel Principles, page 11, 1992 )

Christ was begotten the same way an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers. (Mormon Doctrine, apostle Bruce McConkie, Only Begotten Son, page 547, 1966)

The quote above from Bruce McConkie actually was in connection with how Jesus came into this world, not necessary his pre-existence in heaven.  However, on the same note the same application applies to His pre-existence and His coming to this world.  On another note this shows how Mormonism years ago did not actually believe in the true virgin birth of Jesus Christ in the flesh and to this day are not really sure what to believe.  They have been taught that the Father came into this world and had union with the virgin Mary and that is how Jesus was conceived some 2000 years ago.

“An exalted and glorified Man of Holiness (Moses 6:57) could not be a Father unless a Woman of like glory, perfection, and holiness was associated with him as a Mother.  The begetting of children makes a man a father and a woman a mother whether we are dealing with man in his mortal or immortal state…”all men and women are in the similitude of the universal Father and Mother, and are literally the sons and daughters of Deity.”” (Mormon Doctrine, apostle Bruce McConkie, Mother in Heaven, page 516, 1966)

The blood of Christ does not atone for all sins!

“Christians speak often of the blood of Christ and its cleansing power.  Much that is believed and taught on this subject, however, is such utter nonsense and so palpably false that to believe it is to lose one’s salvation.  For instance, many believe or pretend to believe that if we confess Christ with our lips and avow that we accept him as our personal savior, we are thereby saved.  They say that his blood, without any other act than mere belief, makes us clean.

“What is the true doctrine of the blood of Christ?  Salvation comes because of the atonement, and the atonement was wrought through the shedding of the blood of Christ.  In Gethsemane Christ sweat great drops of blood from every pore when he conditionally took upon himself the sins of the world, and then the shedding of his blood was completed upon the cross.” (What Mormons Think of Christ pamphlet, page 22, 1976)

  • Scriptures concerning Jesus’ shed blood and Atonement – the blood of Christ does atone for all sins!

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,   24 being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;   25 whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;   26 for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.   27 Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith.   28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. (Romans 3 NASB)

But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.   Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. (Romans 5 NASB)

that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;   10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.   11 For the Scripture says, “WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.”   12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him;   13 for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.” (Romans 10 NASB)

but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.   If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.   If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1 NASB)

  • Mormon Church references on Faith and Salvation

3: We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel. (Mormon Articles of Faith #3)

4: We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Mormon Articles of Faith #4)

“For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.” (2 Nephi 25:23, Book of Mormon)

  • Bible Scriptures on Salvation and Grace

13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation–having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,   14 who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory. (Ephesians 1:13-14 NASB)

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;   not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. (Ephesians 2 NASB)

21 You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified?   This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?   Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?   Did you suffer so many things in vain–if indeed it was in vain?   So then, does He who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?   Even so Abraham BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.   Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. (Galatians 3 NASB)

  • Joel Osteen’s interview at YouTube on are Mormons Christians   click here
  • More Bible Scriptures concerning examining the faith and false
  1. Matthew 7:15 – Jesus warns of false prophets in sheep’ clothing
  2. Acts 17:11 – we see the example of going to the Scriptures to examine what we are being taught
  3. Acts 20:29-31 – Paul’s exhortation on being ready for wolves in our own midst that will lead people astray
  4. 2 Corinthians 11:4 – Paul warns of another Jesus and another Gospel
  5. 2 Corinthians 13:5 – we are instructed to examine ourselves to see whether or not we are in the truth
  • More information on what Mormons believe

According to Mormonism Joseph Smith was a latter day prophet whom God the Father and Jesus Christ chose to restore the true church in 1820, which was  when the apostles died in the early church.  For more information more thorough understanding of Mormonism check out Mormonism, Christian or Cult?

  • In closing

In today’s podcast we have provided many reasons why Mormons are not Christians based upon what they believe concerning the nature of God and the Gospel message.   The doctrine of God once being a man first in order to become a God is false.  The doctrine of men becoming gods is false.  The doctrine that the blood of Christ does not atone for all is sins is false.  Thus, when properly examined the God of Mormonism and the Gospel of Mormonism demonstrate that Mormons are not Christians.

If you have any comments or questions you wish to share us you are encouraged to do so below.  Until the next Berean Perspective audio podcast, may you grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus. (2 Peter 3:18)

Kelly Powers

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